Forum 2.0

I would just like to post something about future of our forums. As discussed at the meeting we are looking to freshen up our forum a bit. I know people don’t always like change but this is what we are moving to but I think this will be great. I’m going to move us to Discourse forum software.

If you are pressed for time please move to the bottom of the post and read the How to prepare section.

Features
The most important feature is that others have found a large increase in the quality and quantity of good discussions after setting this up.
Other features:

[ul]
[li]This forum software is 100% free, open source and extendible.[/li]
[li]No pagination (smooths croll down a thread)[/li]
[li]Dynamic notifications (get notified in your browser of new replies)[/li]
[li]Simple and clean layout and usage[/li]
[li]Made for mobile and touch. So will appear cleanly on a mobile browser[/li]
[li]Expanding links. Post a youtube video and it will auto embed. Post a link to wikipedia and it will include a summary of the article etc.[/li]
[li]Reply while you read. You can type a post while reading other threads and posts. Also easily select and quote paragraphs etc.[/li]
[li]Shows you popular links and threads with click counts etc.[/li]
[li]Real time updates means threads will update as others post to them.[/li]
[li]Remembers where you were in a thread[/li]
[li]Good search[/li]
[li]Automation in any aspects[/li]
[li]Badges that can be customised and automated.[/li]
[li]Email replies (i.e. reply to email notifications to post)[/li]
[/ul]

Read more features here: http://www.discourse.org/about/

Try it out:


The above server is a sandbox so register on it and go crazy. You can try it out there. Other places that use this forum software are

Other places that use this:
https://meta.discourse.org/ (The forum for the forum software)
http://discourse.ubuntu.com/
https://discuss.howtogeek.com/
https://community.letsencrypt.org/
and more
See this also: https://meta.discourse.org/c/praise

Transfer

We will transfer the whole existing forum to the new forum including posts and user data. Private messages may be lost. Passwords may need to be reset.

[SIZE=3]How to prepare
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[ul]
[li][SIZE=3]Try it out[/SIZE][/li]
[li][SIZE=3]Make sure the email you have used to register your account on this (the old) forum is up to date and active (you may need to reset password before being able to use the new forum)[/SIZE][/li]
[li][SIZE=3]Make sure that you keep a copy of all your pms that you need outside the forum as we may lose those.[/SIZE][/li]
[/ul]

Thanks Spin.

Question, What about compatibility with Tapatalk.

Went through it a bit, and I don’t like it a lot.

It seems very…confusing. I am thinking from a new user perspective.

Prefer vBulletin.

What exactly is the reasoning behind changing?

Obviously the fact that it’s free will be one but vbulletin is USD200 for a year and there’s a reason so many popular forums use vbulletin.

Is there something wrong with vbulletin other than the fact that you have to pay for it?

A lot of the features of the proposed ( is it even proposed or is it a done thing? ) aren’t even life changing and will barely be used I would think.

Bottom line is it would be nice to actually give reasons on the change as there should be something wrong in the first place to require a change.

There is also a reason why a lot big sites are also running away from Vbulletin…

The people who developed it, is no longer in charge of VBulletin, they have actually ventured into new software.

Vbulletin has fallen behind in terms of efficiency, innovation and most importantly security. Other software is also mostly more customisable and easier to work on.

Well from the looks of it, it definitely isn’t discourse.

That is going backwards.

Well from my point of view:
[ul]
[li]The conversation is first and the badge and trust system all works to promote quality conversation. This is the BIGGEST feature.[/li]
[li]Mobile first development, so everything is more mobile friendly. Don’t need tapatalk at all. Though they are working on a tapatalk plugin.[/li]
[li]From a new new user it’s cool. If you are coming from someone who knows vbulletin from other forums that’s of course not the same but if you don’t know forums this is far easier to learn.[/li]
[li]It’s more modern.[/li]
[li]We can develop badges etc tthats in line with our goals. Imagine a badge for people who do their wind stuff. etc.[/li]
[li]It pushes engagement and we want people more engageed.[/li]
[/ul]

Question, What about compatibility with Tapatalk.

No real need for tapatalk as discource is mobile friendly, but for those who can’t live without tapatalk I believe they are working on a api solution.

All good. Was just wondering as most forums I browse are via Tapatalk.

A good read on discourse: http://www.howtogeek.com/142551/building-the-how-to-geek-community-the-discourse-project/

I forgot to mention that the main reason for reconsidering options now is that we have to move this in any case. So to move is already effort. So good time to reconsider options.

Coming from someone who has done the core site and application move from Carpo to Gravity originally, I can say that moving Vbulletin is effortless. It is literally a file and sql dump and move. There are far more complex things to move.

That said, we’re supposed to be a research network, so onward and upward comms!

Good luck with the migration!

I would think there are more important stuff worth looking into than moving over to a new forum system.

While we are a research network, why change something that works?

We have numerous other issues on the network, mainly bad links and OSPF links not functioning.

Shouldn’t the time rather be spent on getting WMS and our monitoring system up to scratch?

Thanks I’m hoping the move wont be much more than that in any case as they have scripts for converting from v bulletin.

Fixing network monitoring is on the cards after gravity is off. I can’t do network monitoring from a server that can’t do more work. Also the forums may be working but they may well work a lot better going forward. I’d really like the forums to be more popular than othrr soapboxes out there.

For one thing the new forum won’t have a dislike button. It’s really not constructive and really just works many up the wrong way.

Please read my previous messages, by moving to the new system you will be doing the exact opposite.

I for one will stay away from the forums, how can you not see that discourse looks like crap?

It may have more features, but just browsing threads etc is horrible.

I feel exactly the opposite. Why can’t you see the current ones look bad?

Just noticed boing boing also using it:http://bbs.boingboing.net/

Dia, I was also at first unsure about discourse when Spin showed it to me. Was like…but why!

Then I had to use discourse forums for some other project I had issues with, and was like, ok this is not so bad.
The interface is pretty cool once you start looking at it.
There is categories to sort things like you used to sub-forums or sections on vbulletin.

Our current vBulletin do look horrible, and there are far better themes out there. If we were to stay with vBulletin, I would at least hope that we can change the theme to something that Phoronix is using: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/
minus all the ads plastered all over of-coarse.

The other thing is, more and more people are moving to mobile, some platforms not even supported by Tapatalk, only Apple and Android is, which while the majority is not all of them.

That said, personally I am 50/50 on moving to Discourse.