New user connection in Sonstraal

WiND Node (link or at least name and number): Onyx
List your existing wireless equipment (but don’t buy anything): LHG5 (already have one)
Confirm with yes or no that you’ve read the getting started guide: Yes

Description / Details of your issue below Looking at getting to connected to Callisto2 (Radio name Callisto-Morne04) (-77signal)…
Anyone know how to get hold of him? @Callisto

Also need to get an IP etc and some direction on the rest.

TIA.
Adrian

As far as i know the callisto node has only backbone links and does not have a access point for clients other with the exact now how should be able to correct me if i am wrong. The signal is also to high i suggest you follow the getting started guide properly all the info and what to do is in there

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Razor1, appreciate the reply, but I’ve followed the very simple “getting started guide” and hence why I’m contacting the owner “Callipso” via the forum. I’m not quite sure if I’ve missed a step, but please correct me if I’m wrong.
I have plotted my node, checked out what AP’s are available via Wind and also run a scan on neighbouring AP’s to see what there is available outside of the basic LOS via Wind.
I have also sent @Jypels an email for further information, him being the Durbanville admin.

Save for the above, there is no further information in the getting started guide…unless it’s me missing something?

From your reply, you say that Callipso is only a backbone link, care to explain that please?

Callipso only does relaying. It does not have any AP’s. Meaning it does not take AP-clients.

Do you understand this?

@Wolf yes thank you, but my understanding of Wireless networks is that if they broadcast it means they do take clients. If not, who are they broadcasting to? If only for relays, understandable, but then who are the clients? If they are not willing to take on a member of the community then who are they serving?
My understanding of the “greater good” of the CTWUG is to expand the “community” Wireless network?
I am new to the WUG concept but understand it to be such?
Please don’t get me wrong, I am not here to leach, or get any form of internet, as I have a perfectly good fibre connection of my own, but simply join the community and learn as much as I can.

@adrianmego, think the reason everybody is possibly getting a bit upset:

Node Callisto is a CTWUG-owned transit site, so Backbone (or Point to Point) links only.
Section 3 of part One of the Getting Started guide does in fact tell you how to go forward, test kit & all.

Please do a 360 degree scan & post screenshots containing all nodes with ctwug in the SSID here…

Details as to scan settings to be used: https://wiki.ctwug.za.net/wiki/Scanning_using_Winbox

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Thanks Stiaan,
Not getting upset at all, really just trying to wrap my head around things here and how the WUG works.
I will do the 360degree scan but being on an uphill I only really have 180 degrees in which I have line of sight to others.
As soon as I get a chance this week I’ll post the results.

Ok, so after spending the day up and down from the roof, I have determined that the high site at Callisto also has an AP called “DS”, link to the screenshots of my signal and Wind images at the end.
According to Wind it is an AP…
Also, quite strange is that the Callisto2 SSID I spoke about is now disabled…
I’m assuming that Callisto is also run by the DSTech guys as I know exactly where there offices are and I can see them from my roof, now how do I go about asking for permission to connect?

I am not going to post all the boring screenshots I took today but simply the one with the most acceptable signal, being to DS.

I can’t upload images yet as I’m new to the forum but here are links to images:
Singal test: https://ibb.co/C2gMX2W
Link to Wind image: https://ibb.co/LxZGdDZ

Please let me know? @Wolf @Stiaanm
TIA.

DS (Suppose that would be DS Tech) is actually a service provider, with no affiliation to CTWUG (at least not to my knowledge).

You will have to post the boring screenshots, looking for ctwug in the SID name…

Correct, DSTech are a local IT business, but their node is listed on Wind as an AP:
https://wind.ctwug.za.net/index.php/nodes?node=15220

I will redo the signal test later in the week if I have no luck with them…

It is an inactive node. No point in contacting them.

Hi Everyone, so it’s been a while and I’ve done the site survey.
Excuse my primitive image but after doing a 360 degree survey I only get signal from 3 AP’s.
Callipso, which is on DSTech’s building, IronFly (which is reasonable signal) and then Jackass which isn’t great.
The first image corresponds to the 7 screenshots I took today with Signal levels.
Anybody have any suggestion what my next step is, considering members continue to maintain that Callipso, which is an AP on Wind, which is on DSTech’s building, which is my best signal by far, apparently isn’t part of CTWUG and doesn’t take clients? It is number 7 on my first image and I get a signal of -57 from them. The SSID is DSTECH-HOFFMAN, but it’s exactly where Callipso is, it just isn’t labelled a CTWUG SSID.
Failing that, (and that’s what I’m expecting), is the signal from IronFly at -69 decent enough?

Thanks in advance.

Map layout

Scan 1

Scan 2

Scan 3

Scan 4

Scan 5

Scan 6

Scan 7

Comments:

  • DSTech is an ISP, the Hoffman link is a Backbone they use, no affiliation to CTWUG.
  • Ironfly-M3ph is a Backbone, cannot use this one (BB’s are 1 to 1 links).

Question:
What are the settings on the Wireless interface when doing the scan?
Please post a screenshot of this (in Advanced mode) as per this example
<img src="/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c1a27514f1c8ca967cc6d5d9cd7161aed412d9ec.png" width=504" height=“400”>

Hi Stiaan,

Here’s the screenshot. I really am not understanding the concept of having a node on Wind (HOFFMAN i.e. Callipso) but not being affiliated to the WUG? Be that as it may, I also find it strange that the first time I mentioned it, the SSID Callipso (At the Hoffman link site) was visible and the minute I posted this forum topic and tagged the people that I did, the SSID was gone the next day…
Something just really doesn’t add up and I’m starting to question the real reason people want to be a part of the WUG, especially with the fact that 3 AP’s nearby can’t supply me with a connection to this community and are simply described as “backbone” links.
I’ve wanted to join the WUG for quite a number of years and never really got down to it until now, but it’s seeming harder than I thought to join this “community” of closed backbone links and AP’s that are private.

Lastly, what If i wanted to offer a backbone link? What does that even mean for a site like mine?
That being said, I have plenty equipment, a fast fibre connection (if needed) and willing to dedicate my time to the community, if that is what’s needed.
I understand that I may not have the correct equipment (LHG5), but it’s what I had laying around at the office, but I don’t see the viability if my connections aren’t available/good enough.

TIA

Still very much alive & kicking, but once again, it is ALL BB links

Backbone links carry inter-site traffic, mostly for redistribution, thus one-to-one only

Change these settings:

  • Scan list = 4900-6100 (type this in)
  • Frequency mode = Superchannel
  • Country = No_country_set

Once set this way, please redo your scans…

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Maybe this would also be helpful: https://wiki.ctwug.za.net/wiki/Scanning_using_Winbox

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Hi Stiaan,

Here’s the screenshot in the current direction it’s facing (7 on the map), the rest I’ll do tomorrow or in the week (positions 1-6): The Aquarat-Pot wasn’t available in my previous scans, I guess I should have checked the settings beforehand.