Which means it’s definitely wuggers that’s messing up things for everyone for personal gain, which in my opinion should have serious consequences, such as permanent ban.
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Guys, I am as much in need to disclose that as what you would like me to, ut unfortunately at this point it is something the committee has to deal with first. Once dealt with, we can look at that possibility (no promises though)
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As someone stated earlier we can give scoop a list of active wug nodes and new wuggers can buy through that nodes even if they use there host or link to be as a reference , once their node is active they can use their own node and the node database gets sent to Scoop every 2nd month or so it may be some work on our part but it will be worth the rebate for the entire CTWUG community . We also have to make our area’s aware as not every new wugger buys hardware on his own but via host or admin. Just my 2cents hope we can come to some resolution to this issue as Scoop has played a big role in CTWUG. PS I will relay this to the wuggers in my area
Regards Nemisis/Organdonor
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I am sure they have internet access: 
http://wind.ctwug.za.net and it is as up to date as node owners make it. (Subject for another thread)
Lots of flaws even our side on tings that leave it open to abuse, we have at least one person that I know of that has around 60 nodes on his name.
It is a tremendously difficult situation, both for us as well as for them, not sure if we could find a viable solution that would solve this issue
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Yip I just realized its not that simple but we have lots of Great Minds on the wug and I am sure we can figure something out if we put our heads together, maybe we should create something that only wuggers can access and give active nodes some kind of identification that does not show on wind even if its a number or code then give that to Scoop and when people buy on CTWUG account they use the node name and node number together with that number/code/I.D we could even use an existing CTWUG service. Hope this makes sense. Just trying to burst my bubble on this and it will probably take some work on our part to make it work 
Regards Nemisis/Organdonor
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Great minds for sure, but how much time would go into the upkeep of own “home affairs” department.
Oops, starting to burst you bubble, my apologies…
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Do you think that Scoop would ever reconsider the rebate issue if the WUG can come up with a solution to stop the abuse. One idea I had is that all Scoop orders must be placed through a WUG site which would require a user name and password to log in and all orders be visible to everyone so that it would be easy to spot non WUG related purchases.
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OK my 5c if I may, instead of cursing the people to blame and I do understand that it’s not right whoever did it but let’s look for a way to deal with the issue on hand,meaning we do have a committee bord and like I. Ve see everyone is working hard I suggest main admin to have control of purchases in there area so scoop will have less nodes to worry about and ctwug will have even better control so if a client has to wait on there admin to purchase goods so be it so that way there would be less nodes to worry about hope I’m explaining right my saying is always let’s move forward
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Another idea I had…to make sure the person is identifiable, a copy of a WUGger’s ID must be attached to the original invoice that Scoop retains for their records. When they send the sales order off, the e-mail sould be a WUG-email and nothing else. WUG-email addresses are not that easy to get, but much easier to control.
Furthermore, Scoop can put a note (that pop’s up when the account is accessed for purchase) on the CTWUG account that the item being purchased does not fall in the range of products that the WUG normally use. Should this happen, then the account supervisor should auth/decline it.
Any further ideas?
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Agree with Wolf or jst make ctwug members card which cn be purchasd by comittee and wen purcash at scoop u must have yor members card with u that way card cn be used for purchases almost like a ID and the commitee wil also know who it all issued out memebers cards
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Nice idea, make a card, if you make a purcase at Scoop you should produce a CTWUG member card with a reference number regarding your purchase.
So ref# can only be obtained once it is approved by the comms.
Wugger make a purchase order, send/mail it to the comms.Comms can have a look at it and tell if it is necessary ect., After that comms can send the mail thru to scoop, which scoop will generate a reference number for that purchase order.Scoop will send order back to the comms member where it be send to the new/excisting wugger.
The wugger will have to provide his CTWUG member card with the reference number regarding his/her purchase order at Scoop.
Just an idea.
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Wow this is bad , lots of good advice on what we should have done but it’s not to late to implement it now .
Sounds like we need to update our wind accounts maybe start a clean up your node week lol then maybe if we lucky miro will have us lol 
The card is a good idea but i am not gonna wait for comms to approve anything then i just use my own account no more rebate anyway then
@razor1 this will solve the wait question. To be honest just print cards with barcodes. The barcode can be linked to a database. I am sure I can provide scoop with a barcode scanning application that can check a database for validity then setup a database sync between a server at scoop and and wind node names. I am sure our DB cannot be that large. So commitee issues cards and generate barcodes that will be assigned to your node. However this info will not be visable on your node at all lets call it backend metadata. And ofcourse having the cards printed would be a nightmare if every tom dick and harry starts creating ctwug nodes. change wind to allow the highsite owner to set whether or not the node is active so then admins will only set active once link is actually active or in pending. So once admins states link pending coms gets notification that new user is planning to join and they can then generate barcode and give it to the admin that can give it to the user who would then go to scoop and they would check the barcode and then only sell. Now I know your thinking we’re going to spend alot of money printing cards… well when set to pending link a printed (on paper card is given) this way only once node becomes active does the plastic card get printed. Sounds confusing doesn’t it… @dade make this happen
maybe you got me wrong i said its a good idea but i for one are not gonna wait for someone to print out a paper or approve of it and most of us are working and sometimes want go in lunch time to scoop or are on the road and decide hey let me pop in by scoop and get the stuff while i am close or on the road then whats happens? A card system will be the best but not with all the above steps or everyone will just use their own account and no rebates anyway
That’s a great idea the ‘‘Card system’’ and we can even generate some money for CTWUG while we are at it, almost everyone know if you buy on the CTWUG account you get huge savings so why not get the cards printed then sell those cards to wuggers say at the meeting or via certain admins with each card having a different code and its is registered to said wugger(buyer) then if someone wants to buy on the CTWUG account they need one of those cards. Either way we will as wuggers buy those cards as they know all the discount they will have and we raise money for the WUG in the same breath. I would suggest R50 a card minimum. Just throwing ideas out there you welcome to burst the bubble again lol 
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Agreed wil generate cash for wug the card system and also most of all if ppl so serious to buy at scoop they wil get the card if they want discount prices
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Ok So ideas are flowing regarding how to handle this going forth. but what about the culprits out there, as a wug member I am furious at this. and committee waiting to release these things are silly. I mean way back when when something like this needed to be handled there was no shame to name and shame a person. I mean this should be taken to heart and the community needs to be directly involved in this. It does not just affect the coms it affects everyone, So I say let the people know who this is. provide everyone access to this infomation. I mean 1600 heads are better than 4…
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To be honest, I would like to hear that person’s side of the story, but with what I have I doubt whether his/her story would change my opinion in the slightest. Also, would you not think that that person be “judged” by comms before being put before the community? In general, should that person be innocent and we as comms put his/her name to the community, would that not create a Kangaroo court? What would be the effect of this should that person be innocent?
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