This is just a courtesy notice to announce that the DeepSouth hub will be restricted to DeepSouth users only in future. It was always meant to be a DeepSouth only service, but as time has progressed, more and more misplaced wuggers have wandered in and stayed.
I hope this encourages the non-DeepSouthers who loose access to focus on their own areas. 
I agree completely Aragon.
Thanks, I only hope the rest will follow.
Looking at the KM and KFN guysā¦
Im actually just going to remove myself from those area hubs, i suggest other wuggers do the same!
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Read the rules of the forums please. - beetle001
??? I was invited to this hubā¦Iām not welcome anymore? Although I am in Brackenfell I have a pretty good connection to the DS guys via my Pantera link.
/waiting for feedbackā¦
DONT TAKE AWAY MY SLOWHANDS 
pickets
Itās a area hub for a reason, doesnāt matter if you have a fast connection or not.
Itās just to make things more simple, and there is no reason why the same guy canāt just get your linux distros from the main (Central) Hub.
Sorry - have created an exception for you.
I do make exceptions for direct peers. 
Not that Iām complaining or against the decisionā¦but isnāt āCTWUGā an area? We are all connected are we not? What difference does it make really where Iām connecting from?
If there are technical reasons for this decision then please explain itā¦not just for me but maybe for other people that might not understand whyā¦Iām just not following the logic here with restricting wuggers to specific areas. If someone in say Fish Hoek is looking for a lolā¦linux distro and I have itā¦itās an extra download slot for the person whoās downloading itā¦meaning faster download for said user which means traffic gets over the waves quickerā¦resulting in extra bandwidth for other ālinux distroāsā to get transferred.
cool stuffs thanx Aragonā¦but please read my previous postā¦maybe you guys should explain why this is done from a technical point of view so the rest of the guys currently connected and soon to be disconnected can understandā¦
isnāt the whole point of the hub and more than 1 share of the same item to be that when someone is downloading somethingā¦theyāll get it faster the more users are sharing it?
alsoā¦keep in mind that I have half of Brackenfell on my grid, and have backbone links to Kuilsriver and KFNā¦meaning traffic between DS and them should also be relatively fastā¦my point is where do you draw the line on when to cut someone off? 1 hop, 2 hops, 10 hops?
againā¦not trying to be difficult Iām just asking questions on behalf of the general community methinks.
Our network infrastructure is built 100% using dual polarity kit and is tightly controlled (number of sector clients, etc) - in one case we even have 600mbps links between sites to ensure the access speeds are very fast.
In real life terms, If we donāt get 3MB/s file transfers when we download our linux distros from other deepsouth users, we start to worry. This means transfers between deepsouth users specifically is MUCH better for us. Especially considering our geographical isolation, we have 3 links serving 60 odd wuggers from deepsouth to the āmainā part of the WUG.
This means that the more traffic we keep āinsideā the DeepSouth, the less abused those 3 links are and the more new content we can get from the āmainā wug. Thatās why we prefer to have the DeepSouth hub - all the people that are easily identified as local and quick!
I hope this makes sense?
The KFN hub will also be restricted to only Kraaifontein Area users (soon).
We will be making use of firewall rules to only allow certain subnets.
172.18.16.0/24, 172.18.202.0/24, 172.18.211.0/24, 172.18.110, 172.18.80.0/24, 172.18.12.0/24 from the top of my head.
Will add more valid subnets as the users complain. 
guysā¦you are going to regret thisā¦trust meā¦
what youāre doing now is gonna mess things up in the long runā¦I cannot see that isolation is the solution hereā¦if there are content shared in one area which are restricted via firewalls etcā¦how will the other areas get hold of that content?
We arenāt restricting anything - people are more than able to use the main DC hubā¦ and a number of DS users still publish the linux distos to TT.
The local hub almost never serves as a ānewā content repository.
can we then just politely ask that people on the ārestrictedā hubs also make sure to connect to the main hub as well?
ps thanx for being patient with me and explain things, Iām sure it will answer other peoples questions as well.
@Slowhands, Iām one of the users who always checks whether you have the linux distro I need, currently Iām dlāing it from you. My reason is obvious the speeds are ālekkaā to you. Forgive me for lacking the necessary technical abilities, however it is simple to say that one extra slot = faster downloading. I cannot fathom the amount of work going in to setup links, hubs, TT etc. The admin side in itself should be equally a lot of work, I like many other noobs appreciate it. However if every area should now decide on restrictions, would we still be CTWUG or just DS, KFN, KM and MPDC. If I wanted faster access to everyone in Mithellās Plain, I would get into my car or use my āvoettebikeā and a usb drive to get the linux distro I want. Please Aragon, Dade reconsider the restrictions, I have nothing to offer except my opinionā¦[
arizona, the DeepSouth hub was always ment for DeepSouth and immediate peers only. Most of us in the DeepSouth still connect to the main DC hub as well. Overall itās more effecient, network wise, if the secondary hubs limit themselves to their area. The secondary hubs being limited also helps to group together the community in each area which is something we sorely need more of on the wug.
I totally agree with these limitations. Each area should have their own hub, this allows the users to get the information quickly from a close by source at top speeds. In the long run this will help to get a lot of the traffic away from huge connections over the wug as you get the information you would have gotten within seconds by someone in your area. All wuggers should still be connected to the main dc hub which will allow areas to get new content from other area. I wonder if restricting ipās would be the best path though, would it just be easier to force accounts. When the user tries to join it will get told to contact someone on the main dc hub. That way all users will always know how to get to each hub and also be connected to both. The account creation would also help as you will be able to check wind to see if the user requesting is actually in the area or not.