The WUG rules are clear. “No internet sharing”
So I would say:
a) stop doing it
or
b) disconnect the offending network/nodes/users from the WUG
Then they can clarify the legalities with ICASA and if they get the all clear from them (in writing) they can present their case to the WUG committee and it can then be taken from there.
Discussing different technical loop holes etc while putting the WUG at risk in my view is not the correct approach to take.
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A proxy service is not illegal to my understanding i might be wrong it is not something you are selling proxy services has been around since the start of the internet but using it for illegal stuff that is another story and sharing your wifi password is not illegal but you might break your ISP rules and you will be liable for any illegal stuff that your neighbor is doing while using your wifi there is another thread for other things mentioned
That’s my understanding as well. You’re not allowed to profit off your service.
Who was it? Surely ICASA must be able to provide some details …
Unfortunately i highly doubt that we will get the name/s of the users doing it
Well if ICASA makes claim they must be able to prove it right?
Name and shame. Or is there no more transparency left on the WUG? Cloak and dagger games.
We are supposed to be a big family?
hey @Jeeva,
even though your statement sounds legally just and correct, burden of proof falls on the defendant (in this case, accused members and the ctwug as entity). i think its called prepondering or something. it boils down to we would have to convince the arbitor of our innocence. it is also rather important to remember that icasa is not the plaintiff. they are, as governing body, effectively judge and jury.
from a legal stand point, all they would need is a witness to testify that someone was hosting or providing a service for a fee over the wug infrastructure, to put us in breach of NPO etc. then they can not only fine the culprit and the wug, but at their discretion shut the whole network down.
its time to follow ctwug rules to the T or face loosing everything over some selfish wuggers.if its not clearer than that i dont know…ffs
first and foremost @KGB Agreed, comply with ctwug rules.
ICASA doesn’t care if proxy servers are hosted for certain sites.
Nor do they care if you have two nodes on the network and tunnel “whatever” between them.
their only concern is with a person being remunerated for distributing internet over a wireless infrastructure…
because that is the definition of and hence makes ctwug a WISP, which falls squarely under their jurisdiction.
for which they would be owed licensing fees.
not to mention how unfair it would be not allowing the government to misappropriate tax money, that wasn’t paid on undeclared income… he he
what i don’t understand is why even bother creating this thread the said user/s is clearly breaking the rules and they don’t care about the other users on the network just ban their ips and kick them off the network easy everything sorted the admins know exactly who they are so what are you waiting for and name and shame them why hide it or do we need to provide the names of users selling internet over the wug
Only reason is proof, nobody ever steps forward to provide actual proof…
Please do. Please email information to committee@ctwug.za.net. Thanks
Name and shame in the open. Transparency would be great.
A post was merged into an existing topic: ICASA Complaint - Part 2
A post was merged into an existing topic: ICASA Complaint - Part 2
2 posts were merged into an existing topic: ICASA Complaint - Part 2
So just that we are on the same page.
ICASA said someone is selling internet on the WUG, but they dont know who.
WUG committee also dont know who it is.
Is that correct?
If the person/persons are known ban them and move on.
If nobody knows who it is what is the next steps?